Avery Lynch talks touring, new collection, and having faith in yourself

NOVEMBER 15TH 2023 | by MADISON NORTH

Photo by Andrew Dziuba

Pennsylvania native Avery Lynch is on the rise to take the music industry by storm. Don’t let her  vulnerable and personal lyrics mixed with her soft, easy voice fool you, she is a force to be reckoned with. With songs “all I need (the distance song)” and “To Love Somebody Else” each racking in over 12,000,000 streams, Lynch’s music is perfect for fans of artists such as Lizzy McAlpine and Ella Jane.  

We were able to catch Avery Lynch on the road to talk about her first tour, her newest collection, and how she’s been able to believe in both herself and her music. 

RAMBLE: I know you’re on tour with Blu Eyes is that why you’re on the road right now?  

AVERY: Yes, we’re driving to Kansas City right now. 

RAMBLE: Have you ever been to Kansas City before?  

AVERY: I actually have, I’ve driven through it a few times but I’ve never actually been there, it's only ever been on the way from a state to a different state. It should be good, I'm looking forward to it.  

RAMBLE: How has the tour been so far?  

AVERY: It’s been good! Honestly, it’s been way easier than I expected. It’s my first tour so everyone tries to warn you, just like get you prepared mentally…We do road trips all the time because I don’t like to fly so we drive across the country and my home is in Pennsylvania but I live in LA so we do that cross country trip a couple times a year so this was honestly so easy because we normally do this so the hard part is actually the performance part that’s the piece that is like new to do all the time, but for most people it’s the other way around so I’m gonna work on it…(laughing) But it’s been good. 

RAMBLE: I feel like, cause I’m not a big flier either, it’s cooler to drive across cause you get to see things, when you’re in the sky it’s just clouds you don’t get to soak in where you’re at or anything like that.  

AVERY: Yeah, it’s honestly I really like the road trips they’re really fun and we’re getting better and better at it. Me and my boyfriend do them and we’ve just gotten better at doing it, I think this is probably like our tenth one. 

RAMBLE: So you guys are basically like pros at this point. 

AVERY: Yes! Also we have a pretty good routine and system down…It’s been pretty easy and tomorrow we just have a week left…It’s gone by really fast. 

RAMBLE: Congratulations on your song “you’re just a guy” just surpassed 1 million streams, another song in the millions club, how’s that feel?  

AVERY: Thank you! It feels really good because they’re was so much pressure on having one of my new independent releases be one of the songs that work, that like go kind of a thing because I finished my AWAL deal and they own all of my back catalog and I was like ‘I need to make a new back catalog’ (laughing)...So I started doing that and my first song for this era was “useless information” and that song is going to hit a million tomorrow- 

RAMBLE: I cannot stop listening to it! I added it to my November playlist, I was like this is so good. 

AVERY: Thank you so much! That one is a personal favorite of mine, like my favorite song of mine is “useless information” so I’m very happy that that one is getting that kind of attention cause a lot of the time, especially as a independent artist your favorite songs just don’t get heard…It’s hard when you’re releasing on DistroKid or any of those kinds of third party independent platforms you don’t really stand a chance on playlisting or press or anything at all and you obviously don’t get any marketing so it’s just the song, this is all I got (laughing) I hope you like it. 

RAMBLE: And you’re just like I hope people listen to it. 

AVERY: Yes exactly, so we have that one (“useless information) and “you’re just a guy” and we’re like thank god because we needed that and we have absolutely no control over it, but something out there was like ‘we’ll give ya that (laughing) you’ll get a million on this one’…But yeah we’re very excited about it.  

RAMBLE: I feel like too, the song I listened to it and was like she literally just picked from my brain with like every interaction I’ve ever had with a guy. I feel like cause it’s just such a universal experience that people connect with it…Was this song an idea you’d been playing with for a while or it just kinda came up?  

AVERY: I wrote down just the sentence ‘you’re just a guy that gave me some attention’ in my notes app because I constantly, all the time, my brain is trying to come up with those one liners essentially that you can build an entire song off of and I get them from watching movies or reading books or watching tv shows or my friends telling me about their stuff or my sisters telling me about their stuff…Also in my own personal experiences I have been in a happy, healthy relationship for like 4 years now though so those breakup songs are kind of limited (laughing)...So I’m really using my resources there…I wrote the song on September 29th 2022, and then I released the song September 29th 2023 I was like ‘what the heck’, I had no idea…I wrote it down and it kind of came with the melody, sometimes those one lines come with the melody… I know when I have a really strong concept that the song is there and a really strong melody the song is there…I was so excited when I finished that one a year ago, I was like ‘I have a really good song that I know deserves to do well, it may not do well, I have no control over that, I have control over if it deserves to do well so I’m just gonna put all my energy into that’ I loved it, it’s a super relatable song and it’s also something that when I wrote down ‘you’re just a guy that gave me some attention’ line it gives you so much clarity on past relationships or situationships, just that kind of stuff…It changes the way that you view them, you take the power away from them in that situation because they didn’t have that power over you they just gave you attention that was it, so then you’re able to be like ‘that was it, I don’t care anymore’. 

RAMBLE: It's cathartic in a way.   

AVERY: Yeah exactly! It was one of those ideas that felt like a revelation, this has gotta help somebody…It’s gotta give somebody else the same kind of clarity and it did and it has been and that's been really really really cool. I love when that happens (laughing) it doesn’t happen that often but when it happens it’s so cool. 

RAMBLE: (laughing) We cracked the code, we did it guys!  

AVERY: Yeah exactly, and then you have to release more music (laughing)  

RAMBLE: (laughing) Start from scratch all over again. 

AVERY: (laughing) You did it once, do it over and over and over again for the rest of your life. 

RAMBLE: No pressure or anything. 

AVERY: Yeah no pressure.  

RAMBLE: (laughing) So you’re releasing your collection Friction on December 1st , it has all the singles you’ve released so far…”useless information”, “Not In That Way”, “If I’m Being Honest”, “Not Angry”, and “you’re just a guy” along with your most recent single that’s coming out next week, “Didn’t Show Up”. You had wrote in the Instagram caption (about the release) that they’re all connected and not all about breakups, when you were writing about non-romantic relationships did you find it harder to be vulnerable in that way? Cause I feel like when it comes to songs most things are about romantic relationships, we don’t really hear about the non-romantic ones…Did you have to kind of give yourself permission to open up and be like ‘It’s ok not to hold back about this’? 

AVERY: Yeah I had to honestly in writing them also because people really appreciate songs about relationships because it’s something so universal…People feel so strongly about them, about like when they’re doing well, when they’re not doing well, like all of it is a universal obsession almost and those are the kind of songs that I write…So I’m just gonna channel these to be breakup songs, even though they’re not. It was weird because when you’re writing it you kind of have to tap into the story that you’re making…For “you’re just a guy” for example, that song is, it’s technically about my previous team and all the people that reached out to me in the past kind of acting like they were interested or acting like they cared and they really don’t, it’s a lot of empty things, especially when you’re doing well people will reach out kind of claiming they can do all these things for you, you’re so special and they love you, it’s completely meaningless you can’t trust it, so they’re just a guy that gave me some attention and then I was like ‘well now I have to write this about a boy’ (laughing) even though it’s so many people but it’s the same exact thing and so I did that throughout all the songs, and “useless information” I started writing that when I stopped working with my previous team…It’s so funny that this is what it came from, they had all of their files on me, they had my home address, they have my card information, they know my parents names, their addresses, they know everything about me and now we don’t work together, where does that go?...I need to make something that isn’t about just this one experience but it is that feeling but for so many other things, so let me now go back to my ex-boyfriend from high school who I was with for five years, I know the street name that he lives on, I know the actual rules to track & field, I don’t care about track & field (laughing) but I know a lot about it and I still know a lot about it even though I haven’t been with him for like six years, it just doesn’t go anywhere…It’s taking the same feeling and trying to step outside the frenzy that you’re feeling when you’re just in heat of a feeling…I was so angry at my old team, I was so upset I was so angry but no else is, no one understands this but they do know this feeling, they do know being this angry…It is a bit of a mind game, when you’re writing you have to sort of tap in and out of ‘this is what I’m writing about’ but ‘I’m singing it like this’ ‘I’m telling this story’, I would wrote a verse like I’m in a movie, I see the characters, I hate this guy, and I write the verse and I go out of it and does it line up about what I’m actually writing about (laughing)...And that’s kinda what I’m known for writing, really sad breakup songs. 

RAMBLE: (laughing) The best kinds of songs though.  

AVERY: It is! I love it and I like writing about feelings the most and feelings you don’t really want to admit to yourself or feelings that are slightly embarrassing that you kind of keep to yourself, like ‘you’re just a guy that gave me some attention’, that exposes so much like that’s embarrassing and I have songs that it’s my fault, I did this to you I’m sorry about it…It’s just tapping into uncomfortable feelings that everybody has but nobody wants to talk about and I got to do that a lot with this collection…I’m literally so excited about it, t’s my favorite thing that I’ve made.  

RAMBLE: How would you say this collection differs from your other two projects As Written (Vol.1) and The Kids Table?  

AVERY: Well it is longer (laughing) it is longer than As Written…This one I completely did my own thing and I did my own thing in As Written, that whole project it was just me, without thinking about anything else, without considering anything or anyone else it was just ‘these are my songs that I’m writing from thin air kind of a thing’ and I did that again essentially but this time with my own experiences, my new experiences, more time that I’ve spent writing, more feelings about things, I feel so much more strongly about things now then I did then and I’ve been in the industry longer and I’m not just kind of writing songs about prompts that people are giving me…I feel so much more established as an artist with my own sound, I feel so secure in that…I’m not trying to find inspiration really other than just looking at myself…I love my song “Out Of Love With You” and “useless information” was kind of paying a little respect to that song with the kind of waltz piano…I think it was just I wasn’t looking at anyone else I was looking at myself…It’s very rewarding to know that this literally just came from me being inspired with just general life. But The Kids Table EP I was listening to a lot of new music that I hadn’t been listening to before and I got really really into different sounds and I just wanted to try new things and so I did and that was kind of like my sort of experimental thing so I was pulling inspiration from so many incredible artists and just trying to expand my tool kit and this one (Friction) I haven’t listened to much music, I’ve been reading a book every week and watching movies and ‘oh my god I’m on spotify and I haven’t had a new song saved in like a month’...And I’m just creating from whatever my brain is creating from…Also there’s so much attached to it (Friction), there’s a full storyline attached to it too, it’s all connected, my other ones they’re not they’re just songs. 

RAMBLE: I imagine that’s gotta feel like, like the writing process just feels more authentic…I feel it’s easier when you’re able to just write what you want and how you want versus like ‘oh well I probably should write about this’ or ‘would this one work better’, I feel like that’s just how the best music is made when it’s coming from you authentically. 

AVERY: Yeah exactly, and it’s so hard with the new TikTok age and everything with having to make things, like have a TikTok moment and I gave up on that a long time ago…”you’re just a guy” is really the only one that has had the TikTok moment about it and that wasn’t even purposeful but I’ve kind of made it I’m just gonna make good music (laughing) it doesn’t matter if it has ‘oh this part is so good for TikTok’, there’s no point…It feels very authentic for me to just make it how I want, that’s how it is (laughing). 

RAMBLE: You had also posted that this past year was one of the more challenging for you as an artist, how were you able to stay motivated both personally in your life and then also creatively?  

AVERY: Honestly, I don’t know because (laughing) it was really bad. It was like everyday felt so dooming, it was also the people that I had in my corner that were meant to be the ones that believed in me the most didn’t so I was like ‘should I not? I guess I shouldn’t then’. It just took a very long time, it was months and months and months of that…I just essentially had the realization that if I didn’t do this as my job I would still do it anyway, like I wouldn’t stop writing and I wouldn’t stop releasing anything and essentially acting like I’m an artist like that wouldn’t go away, so I just have to keep going…It’s not confidence, (laughing) I had like no confidence in my music for a bit…I did “useless information”, it was my first single that I released completely independently by myself, it was just me, I released it on DistroKid and people were kind of rallying around me because of it, they were like ‘this song is really good’ and ‘let me know if there’s anything that I can do to help’ and then I had friends who were just posting the song and it had a couple moments on TikTok and Reels that just like assured me that I’m good at this I think, like I think I’m good enough at this to do this and it was really just that and people that found me and were happy to find me, people that were like ‘I wanna work with you, you’re gonna do something’ and I hadn’t heard any of those words in a very long time…It was a very slow gradual process but it was very difficult in the beginning…I didn’t have any motivation (laughing) I don’t know how I wrote “useless information”...I wrote that I think literally my worst month…(laughing) But we’re all good now. 

RAMBLE: It’s hard when you’re in the mentality about anything to see like the good side or believe that people actually do have faith in you and that you’re doing what you’re supposed to be doing. 

AVERY: I didn’t know people were there anymore, like it didn’t feel like people were listening to me anymore cause I hadn’t released anything. I hadn’t been posting anything except general instagram dump, like random songs I had been writing but nothing was happening so I kinda felt like ‘where did everyone go?’ kind of a thing, but they all came back, like for “useless information” they were all like ‘no we’re still here’ and that just gave me the momentum. 

RAMBLE: So your new song “Didn’t Show Up” comes out next week, what can you tell us about that? 

AVERY: So “Didn’t Show Up”, I’m very excited about it, it was a song that I felt like was the most direct of any of the songs “Not Angry” is fairly direct, it’s pretty direct, but  “Didn’t Show Up” is the most ‘I’m not gonna sugar coat this’, it’s more ‘I’m upset at you, you did this thing, you didn’t show up for me, and I’m telling you that’ and I love it, I think it’s really cool, I think it’s a really cool sound, it feels really authentic, it’s just something that I created, I wasn’t inspired by anything just anger (laughing).  

RAMBLE: (laughing) That’s the best motivation though sometimes. 

AVERY: Right! It is, and I’m very excited about it, it wasn’t one that I thought would be a single, but it makes so much sense to be kind of what sends it off to go into the collection because it really sets the stage…And it feels good cause that song wouldn’t have been the focus track either but I want it to be heard because it is like me just saying how it is, so getting to know that that has its moment and people will listen to it, it’s the most important thing because it’s released on it’s own…It’s very cool because it gets that kind of attention…I was always kinda torn about it cause I know there aren’t really many TikTok moments about it, people may not, they won’t like it the way they liked “you’re just a guy” and I get very in my head about it but I love the song so much and I’m very excited about it, I think it’s really cool, same producer who produced “you’re just a guy” who did this one too and he was very excited about it too.  

RAMBLE: One final question I have for you is, as the years winding down, what can you tell us about the upcoming 2024, any big plans or anything in the works?  

AVERY: So I do have a certain plan in the beginning of next year, probably around February or March, to have another project and do a bit of an anniversary thing for a certain thing, I don’t wanna give too much away, but that’s the plan I’m very excited about it, it’s kind of long overdue…And I really hope to tour again next year at some point, but that’s it (laughing) that’s it for now though.

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